Subject: Checking in
November 8, 2015
Very nice to hear from you.
Glad to help the cause. Very proud of the work we all did on that one. Slowly submitting it to festivals now. But I'm guessing your dedication and charisma has as much to do with protest turnout as the video.
BM protest is Tues Nov 11 or Wed Nov 12?
And let me know if/when you're up for another video. Maybe something not quite as epic as the last one, but hopefully effective.
Nick Ravich Director of Production, Art21
133 West 25th Street, #3E New York, NY 10001
November 8, 2015
Wow—festivals? Sounds amazing. Protest is Nov 17, but it turns out I have a speaking gig that whole day and want the cash, so I'm organizing a bunch but won't be there. Of course I'm up for another one! I'd love to do something this winter if possible, or spring ... What's good for you all?
I'm working on a blown glass vessel with collaborators that I can explain.
Carried on Both Sides -
hand blown glass, yakisugi cedar wood 2015 (and ongoing)
Carried on Both Sides is a project about the ancient Roman shape that a common computer symbol comes from. What if every tap of the @ symbol conjured an image of an ancient Roman vessel? Next year marks the 45th anniversary of the use of the @ symbol in email, but at least the 480th anniversary of its use in mercantile accounting, and the 3000th anniversary of the standardization of the shape to which merchants initially referred.
FEEDBACK / SUGGESTIONS / QUESTIONS 00:00–00:53—perfect start/great intro! [music, waves, to talking about voraciously curious, perfect]
Then add this: As a research-based artist, How do I balance conceptual rigor with material poetry?
I begin with a line of inquiry, a question that might sustain my attention.
I then determine the methods and expertise that I need to follow this line of inquiry, which often involves bringing in collaborators in areas of expertise beyond my own.
We open ourselves up to the process itself, allowing the material to speak, in dialogue with our research.
We then find conceptually relevant ways for the project to circulate.
00:54–1:23—great audio, but don’t show the click at 01:06–01:22 as that’s the wrong amphorae and not accurate at all, so use the dressel 20 I click on or use other images than Google search, like
1:24–1:50—done, great sequence [conjuring an imperial form]
1:50–1:55 — [skype Helen] (maybe this should come after I talk about her as an artist?)
1:55–2:03—[economy and exchange] (add some- thing about imperial forms long outlive empires)
2:03–2:15 — [Helen showing the murrine] great, but add talking about process and intro collaborators (I then determine the methods and expertise that I need to follow this line of inquiry, which often involves bringing in collaborators in areas of expertise beyond my own. / We open ourselves up to the process itself, allowing the material to speak, in dialog with our research.)
2:15–2:33—“people who know glass.” INTRO Helen and Alex’s work—they are not my fabricators, please include me talking about them as artists.
2:33–4:40—[urbanglass] great. Except for 5 seconds of footage. Please cut this footage from 03:56–04:00—don’t show the ugly handles she’s making, show other Helen b-roll (too ugly of an object to show) Show footage of me looking at the vessels on the shelf (the hour glass)
4:40–5:28 — [beach] great, but cut the audio here 04:40–4:42 — please don’t have me saying “babies, lots of babies,” and cut the footage from 04:56– 05:00 with Alex and I playing in the sand.
5:28–5:58 — [lovely dream waves] great please add more of this in the beach b-roll throughout, I love this wave part. More floating in waves without the beach being seen! Like 07:21–07:30
5:58–6:48—[saying yes speculative future sequence] great, but for the b-roll images from 6:08–6:12 add the best work, the Capitoline Wolves table, the roman columns, Helen’s newest tray of murrine, Helen's marble overhead, etc.
6:48–7:38—[dream state] YES so good, cut audio 6:55–6:58 “to escape everything” so it just says “it’s where I went to ... be alone with myself.” Add “imperial forms long outlive empires.”
consider adding http://carriedonbothsides.com/?time=night which will soon have https://www.dropbox.com/s/zjiivw0nv0i4npu/Hourglass_ v1.mov?dl=0 on it
Feedback / Suggestions / Questions
NOTE: my major requests/needs are in bold
I like “floating possibility” a lot!
00:00–00:12 — great start visually, not sure about the “I grew up surrounded by the ocean” audio, but fine.
00:17–00:21 — you MUST cut the audio that says “where I went to be alone.” This is upsetting to me as it is romantic-era language, not 21st century collaborative language, and not at all about my practice. If you must, you can start with “I grew up near the ocean” but PLEASE cut the audio “to be alone.” I am finishing a book now on the future of art education with Susan Jahoda that is precisely taking up this image of the solitary artist right now, to be published this December. It would be very hard for me to show this video with confidence to anyone if that “alone” language is included.
00:21–01:20 — great (minor weird audio cut from 01:08–01:09)
01:20–1:30 — new image for the amphorae rather than showing “getty images logo.” you can use this
and perhaps an image of ancient Rome shipment like this:
or a general map
01:38–01:40 — weird audio jump
01:42–01:50 — maybe don’t show Helen / Alex’s emails? I’m fine with it, let me see if they are.
02:02–02:07 — maybe cut audio “for me it felt like a clear direction to go in” to give silence / pause.
02:16 or 02:29—drop in title card “Helen Lee—artist” here.
02:39–02:42—cut this, go straight to the glass, let the glass image lead.
03:57–03:58 — weird audio jump 04:11–04:15—cut the shelf shot, give us more sexy glass studio shots.
04:49—slow cuts before this, to really prepare viewers for video shift “we decided to go to the beach.”
04:59–05:03—can you replace this b-roll with another shot that’s less childlike?
05:07–7:21—beautiful, work in the audio with b-roll and it’s done!
05:33–05:39—cut audio “the objects have a life of their own ... what the objects want.” Too romantic.
06:09—please add the slide of Helen’s tray of murrine (in HELEN PICS folder)
07:06 — great! This can be the last spoken word “Suspend disbelief and make a work of art that’s for a dream state.”
07:21–07:40 — cut audio “what if art could be ... a kind of glistening glass object in the middle of the ocean ... that is the encounter, that is the exhibition.” as this makes no sense at all. Perhaps in this section you can bring in more audio from me about Helen’s work and Alex’s work? Or just bring up the music and the wave sounds!!!
“Political interventions, crossing through art, inextricably linked to the institution, must be aware of the clash between recognition and distribution, or else, politics and the economy and how historically constituted artistic labor operates within this class, or conflict, both materially, and as an analytical category.”
— Angela Dimitrakaki, 2018